The Human Touch

Art by Analise Black

How do I beat a saturated market, win over art directors, and inspire my students? Lee White, Will Terry, and Anthony Wheeler share the keys to these questions and more in this episode.

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Anthony Wheeler: anthonywheelerart.com, Instagram @anthonywheelerart, Twitch

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Humans are relational by nature. Expressing interest in people changes how they treat you and will open many doors in your career and life.

  • It’s possible to be both kind and strategic. Don’t waste opportunities to make sincere connections that could help you down the road.

  • Your humanity sets you apart from AI and other artists. You possess a vision that will only come into existence through you. Don’t be intimidated by perceived competition; focus on creating your unique work.

  • It’s not a teacher’s job to motivate their students.

  • If you’re a student, prove you are a worthy time investment by working hard on your own, asking for help, and applying everything you learn.

QUESTIONS

Christian asks, “How can a beginning illustrator stand out in an oversaturated market full of low-quality art?”

Some people worry about losing jobs to starving artists who will accept lowball offers. Others are concerned about AI making illustrations cheap and accessible. Who could outcompete that? 

Two things can set you apart: your skills and your humanity. 

Really good art is hard to make, and most people won’t put in the work to be able to create at a high level. If you do, you’ve already got a considerable advantage on the competition. The best clients understand the value of your work and will be willing to pay you accordingly, rather than favoring the lowest bidder.

On top of your artistic skills is your individuality. Whether you’re making personal projects or client work, you bring a vision to the table that no computer program can. While AI is becoming increasingly sophisticated, it’s not you; you have stories to tell and images to create that have only ever existed in your imagination. You’ll always have something unique to offer. So don’t fear being replaced or lost in the crowd; tell your stories, help people, make great art, and connect on a human level in order to stand out.

Haven asks, “You talk about the students who promise to do great work and then can't deliver because they don’t put in the effort. Since you know this is a red flag, have you ever intervened, and if so, how?”

This depends on the education level of the students. In middle school or high school, speaking belief into a student can make all the difference in their life. By college, however, you’re working with adults, and if those adults aren’t self-motivated, there’s little you can say to change them. 

Low-effort students tend to have talent but put in very little groundwork (few thumbnail sketches or studies) and don’t make changes to their initial ideas. They settle for “good enough.” Often, they don’t turn in any work at all. 

It’s not a teacher’s job to motivate their students. A good teacher is eager to sit down with a struggling student, especially when that student can show what efforts they’ve already applied, but the same teacher won’t waste time trying to help a student who doesn’t show any desire to improve. 

As a student, the ball is in your court. To make the most of your teacher’s time, do as much work as you can on your own first. Then, show your teacher what you’ve tried and where you’re still struggling. Don’t wait for them to seek you out; approach them first. Prove that you’re a worthy investment of their time by applying what they teach you.

Rachel asks, “Recently I started applying your advice and reaching out to publishers and art directors in search of freelance work. I have received some positive reception but no job offers. The response is always, ‘Love your work, let's keep in touch.’ What is the email etiquette at this stage and how do you turn ‘keeping in touch’ into a job?”

If an art director asks to keep in touch, take them up on it! Don’t try to schedule formal meetings or email them every day, but do stay connected. Email them about every six weeks with a few lines and a picture or two of whatever you’re working on. Don’t ask them for anything and don’t expect a response, but let them become familiar with you and your work. 

A great way to build relationships with art directors and editors is to follow their work on social media. When you read an article they’ve written or see something cool they’re working on, shoot them a DM and share a sincere compliment. This can spark a conversation that leads to a deeper professional relationship. 

On top of your artistic abilities, good communication and generosity make you very attractive to work with. While you shouldn’t compliment people just to land a job, taking an interest in others can open doors that would otherwise be closed to you. It is not only possible but wise to be both kind and strategic.

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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Help! My Client Never Paid!

Art by Analise Black

They never paid! How to hold clients accountable, pick your career path, and discover your competitive advantage with Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry.

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Long-Standing Payment Problems at Cricket Media

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • An art career is a balance of pleasing your market and pleasing yourself. 

  • You don’t have to come up with some crazy, new style; you just need to find something that’s working and add your unique spin to it. That’s your competitive advantage.

  • Don’t be ashamed to negotiate a better deal or hold clients accountable to the terms you set. You’re a legitimate business and should carry yourself as such.

  • Today’s focus and work will provide for tomorrow’s experimentations and side projects.

QUESTIONS

An anonymous listener wrote saying Cricket Media owes them for an illustration. Our listener emailed Cricket repeatedly until they heard back that Cricket is experiencing tight cash flow and will reach out when the payment is scheduled to process. Their contract did not specify a due date for the payment; is there anything our listener can do to ensure they get paid?

Unfortunately, Cricket has a history of issues like this (as evidenced by this article). The best advice we can give is to keep petitioning for your payment. The squeaky wheel gets the oil, so don’t stop emailing, and certainly don’t feel bad asking for what you are owed. Illustrators often apologize for expecting their clients to live up to their agreements, but the truth is, you’re just as legitimate a business as any other. You provided a service for which your client promised to pay you; you have full right to insist they follow through.

Unfortunately, contracts do not always provide the level of protection you would hope for. You should always use a contract, and you can remind your client of the terms to which you both agreed, but it doesn’t ensure you’ll be treated fairly, especially with smaller jobs. If Cricket offers you more work in the future, decline it unless they pay you upfront.
Marc asks, “Is cartoon style still in? I struggle to know where my work fits.”

First, do a little market research. Go to Barnes and Noble or the kids’ section at Target and note any cartoon work you see. What kinds of books and products display that style? Look up the artists for those products and find their representation on LinkedIn; those agents could be great for you, too. 

Cartoon-style work is still in, but it has to be contemporary. Make sure your portfolio is up-to-date and just a step or two ahead of current trends. Observe what’s popular and see how you can improve it or add your own unique twist. Discover your competitive advantage. 

Vojtěch asks, “I love making many types of art, and I can’t pick just one to pursue full-time. Do you have any tips on how to choose a career path and not look back on the other options you’ve left behind?”

Here’s the deal: if you want to make art for a living, you have to get good enough at one thing that you can be paid to do it. That means starting your career with a season of focus. Assess your goals: do you need insurance? A stable income? Certain fields, like animation, offer these benefits more readily than freelancing or children’s books. If those are necessities for you, get a job in a studio that will pay your bills while you develop your artistic skills. 

With this stable foundation, you’ll have extra time to dabble in other art forms or develop side projects which could eventually become your main gig. You don’t have to leave anything behind; you just need to put distractions on pause temporarily until you’ve created a solid foundation for yourself.

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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What If You Could Go Back In Time?

Art by Analise Black

Would you do it all again? Illustrators Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry share how they’d approach their careers if they were starting from scratch today. You don’t want to miss this!

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KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Your job as an illustrator is not merely to make images (AI can do that!); it’s to solve human problems with creativity.

  • In today’s economy, holding down a day job and making art on the side is the most practical option for many. Don’t beat yourself up if this is the best path for you.

  • If you have a 9-to-5, make time to tinker. Prioritize creative play in your off-hours.

QUESTIONS

Raj asks, “If you had to start over with no audience and no body of work, but with all the knowledge you have now, how would you go about it? Would you restart your career, and if so, how?”

Will would do something non-artistic just to pay the bills. That would free him up to make illustration work he truly loves, rather than feeling pressured to create whatever makes a buck.

Lee would focus less on feeding the algorithm and more on developing his craft and his future.

Jake would apply for jobs that allow him to clock out at the end of the day, leaving all his work worries in the office or studio. Then he’d use his 10-16 free hours every day, plus weekends, to sleep, eat, and develop his craft. Like Will, he’d allow his day job to bear the weight of paying the bills so his creative energy could be applied toward whatever he’s passionate about. Jake would practice slow productivity: making small and steady progress towards completing a very high-quality project over an extended period of time. (Not forgetting his cardinal rule, “Finished, not perfect,” which states that at some point, you just have to call a piece done and move on.) If income from creative work caught up to his day job, he’d transition to full-time art making, but if it didn’t, he’d be content to keep an inflation-proof 9-to-5 and enjoy art on the side.

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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10 Sins of Art School

Art by Analise Black

In this episode, illustrators Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry share their top advice for art school students. Tune in and discover how to get the most from your educational experience!

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KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Don’t follow the school; follow the teacher. Better than a degree from a prestigious university is experience studying under illustration masters. Prioritize learning from the right people over everything else. That might mean taking only a few classes at your local university and supplementing the rest with online courses or in-person mentorships.

  • If you’re the best in the school, you’re at the wrong school.

  • Take fewer classes than you think you can manage and overdeliver on all of your assignments.

  • Your artistic education doesn’t happen to you; you happen to it. Take advantage of every opportunity to learn, including from your professors’ critiques of other students’ work.

  • Good student habits become successful entrepreneur habits.

The 11 Sins of Art Students:

  1. Being chronically late to class. It’s a sign of narcissism and lack of respect.

  2. Telling your professor how hard you’re going to work. Try less talk and more action!

  3. Sharing “phantom art” for critique. In art school, you pay your professor to be your art director. They should see all of your pieces starting in the sketching phase. Consult them through the entire creation process; don’t show up to your critique with work they’ve never seen before.

  4. Scribbling in the sketchbook for credit. Your sketchbook is like a gym for your art skills. Don’t merely fill pages; train. Invest the necessary time to create sketches that improve your drawing skills. If you can’t do that, you’re not cut out for a career in illustration.

  5. Being last to set up in class. Preparing your palette or drawing board takes some time. Show up early so you don’t waste precious class time setting up.

  6. Showing your teacher the same sketches week to week with no changes. Come on, they know.

  7. Poor critique etiquette. Some students deal harsh critiques when they have no skills of their own; other students receive abundant feedback on their work but never offer suggestions to others. Find the middle ground.

  8. Wearing headphones in class. This habit is both rude and isolating. Never be so plugged in that you miss an opportunity to learn from your professors (and more often your peers) in class.

  9. On your phone in class. See rule 8.

  10. Being overly critical of pro illustrators’ work. A little humility will serve you well.

  11. Packing up early. Every chance to learn and practice is precious. If you’re preparing to leave class before it’s even over, you are not committed enough to survive as a full-time illustrator.

5 Tips for Students

  1. Give yourself assignments, especially on school breaks. Create the assignments you want to be hired for.

  2. Redraw your assignments before the deadlines. Is that figure drawing not coming together? Crumple it up and start again. Don’t stop after the first try.

  3. Freelance. Get working experience in your chosen field as soon as possible, including before graduation.

  4. Research the niche you hope to enter. Don’t expect your school to feed you everything you need to know about your future career.

  5. Make work you enjoy alongside the tedious, required stuff.

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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Stop Practicing Start Making

Art by Analise Black

How do I break out of permanent practice mode? Jake Parker, Will Terry, and Anthony Wheeler address this issue- and update us on their latest projects- in this juicy episode.

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Anthony Wheeler: anthonywheelerart.com, Twitch
Pickleball Paul by Will Terry
Inktober Pictionary Sketchbook
Lorcana by Disney

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Titles are irrelevant; it’s your work habit that counts.

  • The fastest way out of an illustration rut is a project with a focus.

  • Amateurs create for fun; pros create because it’s the right thing to do.

QUESTIONS

Jessica asks, “How do you define a professional artist?” 

While it’s hard to nail down, a good rule of thumb for any professional is the seriousness with which they treat their work. While amateurs create when they feel like it, pros do the work because it needs to be done, whether or not their emotions are in favor.

With that, don’t get too hung up on whether or not you’re a professional. Focus instead on showing up consistently, making the highest-quality work you can, and doing what you need to to support yourself with your art. At the end of the day, what’s more professional than that?

Joe asks, “Any tips for breaking out of forever practice mode?”

When you’re stuck in practice mode, it often means you don’t have direction. The best way to combat this is to pick a lane and stick to it, even if only for a certain amount of time to see if you like it. Give yourself a 30-day project that involves daily practice and a solid result- a zine, a series of posters, a portrait for every day, etc. At the end of 30 days, start a new project. This will get you out of practice mode and into completion mode; you’ll have something to show for your daily efforts. Sometimes a little focus and direction are all you need!

Danika asks, “Can you give any tips on how to organize traditional and digital artwork?”

Years’ worth of accumulated art can feel suffocating. When it comes to physical work, we like to sell, give away, or even throw out anything that’s taking up space unnecessarily. Digital pieces are easier to store; our more recent work is uploaded to the cloud (in case we need it again), while super old stuff gets retired to hard drives.

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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From Sketch To Final

Art by Jake Parker

How Do I Turn My Sketches into Finished Work? Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry share their perspectives on this question, plus the efficacy of cons, and more in this episode.

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How to Fix Your Art livestreams
Creative Composition class by Will Terry
Grumpy Monkey book

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Every piece has an ugly middle phase. Don’t quit too early!

  • Just because you can do anything doesn’t mean you can do everything. Pick your one or two stand-out fields and become the best in those arenas. 

  • If you react to certain art negatively, investigate it and learn why you dislike it. It’s just as valuable as studying work you love!

QUESTIONS

Tom asks, “As you have shown in your How to Fix Your Art series, there are multiple ways to illustrate a specific scene. While art is very subjective, what are some thoughts you have or techniques you use to zero in on a sketch to take to final art?”

First off, thumbnails are magical. They allow you to work through composition issues quickly in a small-scale format. After that, we evaluate the silhouette, volume, proportions, and movement of the figures (if there are any). If those look good, it’s time to finalize your piece.

Seth asks, “I've been an illustrator on and off for about twelve years, but I've never been able to make it work as a full-time profession. I've jumped around graphic design, game design, and animation, but I'm trying to make the transition into illustrating for children's books. How can I improve my portfolio to land some illustration work and turn this into a full-time profession?”

When you’re very skilled across multiple disciplines, as Seth is, you need to remember that just because you can do anything doesn’t mean you should. If you want to land jobs, you need to stand out in one or two fields, rather than all of them. When an art director lands on your website, don’t overwhelm them with possibilities; make what to hire you for obvious.

If you want to enter children’s books, nail down your contemporary style, assemble a few book proposals, and get an agent. With a little niching down, you’re sure to get the work you’re after.

Shaun asks, “I’m into the idea of drawing comic book covers and would love to be commissioned by the big companies to do variants. How do I get the attention of those companies?”

A variant is a comic book with a limited-edition unique cover. If you want to be hired to create these, begin by refining your current work (make sure your values and contrast within each piece are solid!). Look up the best Comic-Con artists from last year and see how your work holds up. Make killer fan art. Get connected with local comic shops and ask them what it would take to do a variant; shops often have connections to publishers who can grant permission for your variant. If your local sales go well, it will prove to the publisher that your art moves comics and you may receive the chance to create more on a larger scale.

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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How To Annihilate Artistic Imposter Syndrome

Art by Analise Black

Why are my paintings worse than my sketches? Can I grind and still take care of myself? How do I conquer imposter syndrome? Explore answers to these questions and more with Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry.

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KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • The antidote to imposter syndrome is taking your eyes off yourself and serving others with your art.

  • Your mind and body are your most irreplaceable illustration tools, so take good care of them.

  • Taking a low-paying job today doesn’t have to mean selling yourself short over the long haul.

QUESTIONS

Danielle asks, “Have you experienced imposter syndrome as an artist? How did you overcome it?”

Even the most successful artists experience imposter syndrome on occasion. The best way to overcome it is to remember your purpose. Who do you want to serve? Focusing on that audience allows you to stop worrying about what anyone else thinks. If your true fans are happy, you’ve succeeded, regardless of what other people say.

It’s easy to feel like an imposter when you compare yourself to the awe-inspiring talent on social media. Stop moaning about your comparative inadequacies and focus on what you can control: your work habits. Creating every day is one of the best antidotes to imposter syndrome.

Ireen asks, “Many artists prioritize the grind and overlook their physical health. Do you have any regimens to keep your arms, wrists, and eyes in tip-top shape?”

Your mind and body are your greatest assets as an illustrator, so it’s important to look after them! Be proactive about your health, and prioritize movement, sunlight, and sleep. It will take time away from the drawing table in the short term, but it will extend your creative lifespan. 

It may also be wise to purchase a standing desk or arm supports if you’re drawing daily for long periods. Although a stylus or pencil may not seem like much weight, drawing consistently will cause strain on your body, so proper support is a must. Check out Facebook Marketplace for discounted tables and supports.

Getting your career off the ground will require a season of grinding, but you are not meant to live like that forever. Prioritize time to take care of your health, even on busy days, and enjoy a sustainable career that lasts as many years as you do.

Jason asks, “If you had to choose, based purely on illustration, what is your favorite children's picture book?”

Jake: Rules of Summer, The Brave Little Tailor
Lee: The Red Tree, The Polar Express, Strange Child
Will: Jack and the Baked Beanstalk 

Pamela asks, “Why can’t I paint my sketches? I tend to lose the energy of my lines if I add paint or ink (even digitally). Any tips?”

We recommend embracing your linework and integrating it with your painting process. In Photoshop, you can do this with layer masks, which allow you to color your linework and expose it in certain areas while covering it in others.

Study Brett Helquist, who uses paint as line throughout his work. Maybe you’ll find some ideas you can borrow.

Bailey asks, “What are your thoughts on lowering your rates when you're starting out before you have much of a work history?”

At the beginning of your art career, you’ll likely need to take low-paying jobs just to cover rent. That doesn’t mean your work isn’t worth more, and eventually your rates will reflect that. When you’re starting out, offer your clients line item discounts. This allows you to accept small jobs while preparing clients for what they can expect to pay you as time goes on.

With each new client, you can raise your rates a bit more. You can also use these low-paying projects to round out your portfolio and hopefully attract more lucrative work in the future.

LINKS

Svslearn.com

Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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Art and Comedy with Doogie Horner

Art by Doogie Horner

Author, illustrator, and comedian Doogie Horner joins Jake Parker and Will Terry to discuss life as a multidisciplinary artist. Doogie shares how an audience impacts his work, his philosophy around illustrating comics, how he’s created a fulfilling career, and more.

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Doogie Horner: doogiehorner.com, IG @doogiehorner, Dad Max comedy special, A Delicate Man comedy album
Quirk Books
Deep Work
So Good They Can’t Ignore You
Deep Questions with Cal Newport

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Just because you’re good at something or your work could sell doesn’t mean you need to pursue that full-time or even monetize it. It’s ok to give free access to some of your work just for fun.

  • You don’t need to take advantage of every opportunity; be selective and pick those that give you the day-to-day life you’re looking for.

  • To make great work, create without hope of reward or fear of failure.

  • Choose your career based on the overall lifestyle it can give you.

BIO

Doogie Horner is a writer, illustrator, and comedian. Raised in Pennsylvania, he studied design at Tyler School of Art and Architecture in Philadelphia, intending to write and illustrate books. He spent his early career designing book covers, working at Quirk Books for about ten years.

While working at Quirk, Doogie entered the world of standup comedy. Where art requires long hours of isolation, Doogie found the immediate feedback of standup comedy exhilarating. After winning over a booing audience, he became briefly famous as a semi-finalist on America’s Got Talent. 

Despite his success in comedy, Doogie chose to stay with his job and continue performing on the side. In standup and art, he enjoys having an audience and sharing his work with people. “A different part of me engages when I know I’m making something people will see,” he says. 

Doogie is the author of This Might Hurt a Bit, Some Very Interesting Cats Perhaps You Weren’t Aware Of, A Die Hard Christmas, and many more. His comedy album, A Delicate Man, was an AV Club staff pick. Doogie lives with his family in New York.

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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Am I In The Right Illustration Field?

Art by Analise Black

How can I succeed without illustrating children’s books? Any tips for entering the gaming industry? Why can’t I land a second book deal? Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry share their perspectives on these questions and more in this episode.

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Chantal Horeis
Danica Sills
Heikala
Loish
Rifle Paper Co.
Bizzy Bear books by Benji Davies
Beta Ray Bill

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Learn the difference between art you like and art you want to make.

  • A career in illustration requires a long-term commitment. Be a first-class business owner: budget for your startup costs, be patient with your growth, and don’t bail out of your job before it’s wise to do so!

  • If your art skills are good, but your work isn’t selling, perhaps you’re talking to the wrong market. If, for example, your work is too commercial for children’s books, it might fare better in licensing or decor!

QUESTIONS

Lina asks, “I don't have a huge desire to become a children's book illustrator. There is a lot of information out there for illustrators who want to go the children's book route, but not much for someone who wants to do their own thing. Do you have any advice for those of us in this bracket of the field? Is there a different way for us to market our work?”

You don’t have to create children’s books to be a successful illustrator, but be strategic about your chosen path. You’ll need to have consistent, distinct branding across all of your work. You’ll also need to figure out what you’re going to sell, how you’ll sell it, and what kind of person will buy it.

Selling prints, stickers, and the like is slow in the beginning and requires some significant startup costs, so plan ahead for the extra expenses. Create a five-year plan to get your art career off the ground before leaving your job, and don’t expect to turn a substantial profit early on. It’s all about playing the long game.

To succeed selling individual images, you’ll have to find out what your customers are looking for. Creating a series of related images (e.g. famous destinations in your style) is a great way to connect with a wide range of people while staying on-brand.

Other options include doing gallery work or licensing. Do your research and find the fit that’s right for you!

Lina also asks, “I'd love some tips on how to get into the gaming industry. Can I apply to game design jobs without a degree or experience in the field?”

First of all, the gaming industry is vastly different from the print-and-sticker selling route you previously asked about. If you’re not careful, your split focus can make it hard for you to succeed in any of your pursuits. Make sure you know the difference between art you like and art you’d like to make; just because you admire a certain industry or style doesn’t necessarily mean you should make a career shift to pursue it.

In the game design world, you fake it until you make it. As long as you can do something, your credentials aren’t important. If you’re serious about entering this field, take the time to learn and practice on your own. When you start applying for jobs, you’ll have a portfolio of personal projects to prove you know what you’re doing- or that you’re at least off to a good start.

Corlette asks, “I'm an agented illustrator and so far I've only gotten one book through my agency. I often wonder if I'm good enough to be a PB illustrator with such a different style. I'd like to know what I can improve on if my artwork is good in the first place. I'd love to improve, get more work, and get over being so anxious about my artwork in general.”

The performance of your first book can significantly affect your chances of getting a second one, so that might be why you haven’t received more work. Your artistic skills are on point, but your messaging may be too edgy, commercial, or mature for kidlit. You could either lean into this and create decorative work, perhaps pursuing licensing; or you could add sequential work to your portfolio in the hopes of attracting more children’s book work.

Try walking through a bookstore and observing the kinds of art published today. What patterns do you see? Publishers are very much influenced by trends, and this exercise will give you a better sense of what they’re looking for.

It’s also possible that your agent isn’t very good at their job. If all else fails, consider finding a new one.

Michael asks, “How much should I charge for a second edition of my book? Is that a separate contract? Is there ever any renegotiation at this point?”

Typically, a book deal covers the indefinite printing of your book, no matter how many or how few editions your publisher chooses to print. You won’t renegotiate your price with each edition; you’ll simply continue receiving royalties based on what you agreed to in the original contract. The only exception is when your publisher prints your book in another country, at which point they will pay you a flat fee with no negotiations. 

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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How To Be Prolific with Benji Davies

Art by Benji Davies

Illustrator Benji Davies joins Jake Parker and Lee White to discuss story building, childhood influences, and his solo show at Gallery Nucleus.

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Benji Davies: benjidavies.com, Instagram @benjidavies
Gallery Nucleus solo exhibition
The Tiger Who Came to Tea
Marc Boutavant

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Like children, creative people need time to play without pressure.

  • Simplify. Being single-focused allows you to make better art and enjoy a more peaceful life.

  • You can’t do it all, so figure out what success looks like for you and pursue that vision without comparing yourself to others. Remember that your art career is only one part of your life; don’t sacrifice relationships for creative success.

BIO

Benji Davies is an illustrator, author, and animation director. His award-winning books include The Storm Whale, Grandad’s Island, and Tad- all three of which have been adapted for the stage.

Benji’s books aim to capture how it feels to be a child. Through his art, he seeks to foster confidence in children learning to navigate this noisy world. 

In this episode, Benji shares what influences his work, how he writes stories, and the benefits he finds in creating breathing room between books. He also shares about his current solo show with Gallery Nucleus, for which he transformed digital pieces into fresh, physical works of art. 

Benji resides in East London with his wife and daughter.

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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Making Money Online as an Illustrator

Art by Analise Black

How can I monetize my art? Can I create passive income online? Does my old work belong in my portfolio? Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry share their hot takes on these questions.

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David Hohn
Mark Lague

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • The more visually appealing your work is, the less you need to rely on storytelling. If your art skills are still growing, your images need to have good stories to captivate viewers.

  • Your portfolio should demonstrate the kinds of work you do and the problems you solve.

  • Charge more. You may get fewer clients, but you’ll be better paid for your work and have time to do more profitable things.

  • Consider hiring an assistant! Your annoying shipping and admin work is a high school or college student’s perfect part-time job.

QUESTIONS

Rachel asks, "I’m 28 and lost my illustration job a few years ago due to the lockdowns. Since then, I have been bouncing between odd jobs to support myself while using most of my free time to draw/paint. I have picked up small freelance projects, started a Patreon, and sold a few paintings, but struggle to pay the bills. I want to support myself with my art; any tips to monetize my work?"

  • Attract the right clients. You can do this by making your portfolio more specific. Your portfolio should say, “Clients and art directors, here’s how I can help you.” The needs you fill should be obvious. If they’re not, it’s time to declutter. That might involve clarifying with yourself first and deciding what problems you want to solve with your work (do you make decorative art, children’s books, concept art, etc.?).

  • Charge more. You may get fewer clients, but you’ll be better paid for your work and have time to do more profitable things.

  • Leverage your characters. If there are characters you’ve been drawing for a long time, give them a story. Make a series of them in different situations. This small project could be the grounds for a larger one, like a book or graphic novel.

  • Keep making personal projects. You never know which one will turn into a $40k Kickstarter!

Anonymous asks, “I’ve done a lot of religious projects but want to make art that is more appealing to the masses. I’m rebuilding my portfolio and wondering: Should I include any of my religious work, even though I don’t want more jobs like that now?”

If a project represents some of your best recent work, you should include it in your portfolio. Art directors can see past your subject matter to assess your sequential storytelling skills, action, and color.

Estrela asks, "I’ve been trying to create passive income with my art but with no success. I started selling on Society 6, keeping all of my illustrations themed and on-brand, but my store has gotten almost no sales since I launched last year. Etsy sounds like more than I want to manage right now. Any tips to create a stronger brand and sell better online?”

You’ll never make a worthwhile profit on Society 6, no matter how many sales you get. Their production costs are so high, you’ll only earn a few dollars on a $40 item. It’s only a good idea if you want to market-test new designs or pricing and see which listings get the most interest.

Etsy is more profitable but does take time. If you can hire a high school or college student, they can manage the dirty work of shipping and marketing while you focus on creating. If you can’t do that right now, consider finding a licensing agent. They can help you take patterns and motifs and license them to stores like Target and Walmart. (We have two classes on licensing at SVSLearn if you want to explore that route: Art Licensing and How to Get Your Art on Products Sold in Retail Stores. Watch for free with a 14-day trial!) 

Art with characters is hard to sell online, but themed work can sell well. Think under the sea, forests, trucks, fairies, etc. Applying these themes to cute phrases, alphabets, wallpaper, etc. for children’s decor is super popular. Get on Pinterest if you need inspiration!

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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Should I Quit My Day Job for Art?

Art by Analise Black

Should I quit my job to illustrate? How do you organize admin work? Can I take the stress out of taxes? Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry cover the nitty-gritty of illustration business in this episode.

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Deep Work by Cal Newport
QuickBooks
Nathan Fowkes interview
Brad Colbow: Why Your AI Art Isn’t Selling (and Never Will)
The Art of James Koenig

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • There is power in focus. Designate time for chores and office work, and don’t worry about those tasks outside of their assigned time.

  • Don’t put off doing the dirty work; batch your tasks and complete them early for greater peace of mind and creative bandwidth.

  • Drawing for fun and illustrating professionally are two different games. Don’t turn your hobby into a full-time career unless you’re prepared to face burnout, poor art direction, deadlines, and the admin that accompanies running a business.

  • Don’t quit your job (yet). Create a safety net of savings, eliminate debt, lower expenses, and consider maintaining at least part-time hours at your job to provide steady income during the dry seasons in your illustration career.

QUESTIONS

Roddy asks, “Any tips on the mechanics of running a freelance art career (e.g., bookkeeping, invoicing, taxes, keeping records and receipts, useful resources, etc.)?”

First, accept that these tasks are part of your job description. When you embrace that fact, you can design systems to minimize stress and maximize productivity. Choose to work on taxes and invoices earlier than necessary so you don’t have to stress about running out of time.

Here are some of our favorite back-office hacks:

  • Practice Cleanup Friday: All week, stash invoices, receipts, and office tasks in the Friday file. When Friday rolls around, you can complete all that busy work in one tidy time block.

  • Keep all your tax documents, information, and receipts in a labeled folder on your computer, making it easy to locate during tax season.

  • Invoicing: We like QuickBooks, PayPal, or a customized Google Sheets template.

  • For each new project, create a document containing all the essential information: basic terms, dates, and details. As communication flies between you and the client, you can update the doc rather than sifting through long email chains. It’s also a great place to take notes during meetings!

Mike asks, “My job pays well, but I want to draw for a living. I don’t think I’m professional enough to quit my job yet, but on the other hand, if I quit, I’ll have much more time to improve my art and turn pro. What should I do?”

As soon as you go pro, drawing will no longer be the fun escape it is now. While you might still enjoy it, it will become an obligation and require you to match your clients’ vision before your own. The euphoria of getting paid to stay home and draw will eventually fade, and you’ll settle into a routine of deadlines, bosses, and occasional boring or bad projects.

That’s not to say you shouldn’t pursue illustration; just make sure you have your eyes wide open. If you’re still determined, transition wisely. Eliminate your debt, lower your costs, and put several months’ worth of expenses in savings. At that point, you could take an extended leave from your day job, lining up enough clients to illustrate full-time during your break and giving you a taste of that life. You could also expand your client load until you can transition to part-time at your job and use the rest of your time to illustrate. 

Due to the fluctuating nature of art gigs, maintaining a steady income through a day job, if only part-time, is a necessary safety net, at least for starters. Don’t give it up too soon!

Robert asks, "Do you think AI and AI-assisted art will usher in a new art style or era?"

Since AI learns from so many art styles across the internet, it’s hard to imagine it will develop a single style. While it’s known for realism today, it will likely become more diverse over time. 

We don’t yet have a surefire way to protect our work from AI infringement, but tangible goods are AI-proof and allow your work to connect with people. What physical products could you create and get into the hands of others?

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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Can I Make Money As An Illustrator?

Art by Jake Parker

Can I survive as an illustrator? Should I print overseas? Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry cover these questions and more in this episode.

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Jake Parker’s Kickstarter: Ryder's Intergalactic Guide to Robots, Powersuits, and Mechs

Kelsey Rodriguez interview, YouTube channel
Samantha Cotterill interview
Benjamin Schipper interview
Jake Parker on Pinterest and Flickr
The Color of Pixar book

Podcasts:
Scriptnotes
Jordan Harbinger
Draftsmen
This American Life

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • If making a living as an artist overwhelms you, remain a hobbyist! Don’t sacrifice your joy in creating for an art career that will only cause you stress.

  • Considering an agent? Pause! If you develop your negotiating skills, you might not need to!

  • Self-publishing? When vetting your printing options, consider supporting local businesses if possible; you’ll be helping your neighbors pay their mortgages while ensuring faster turn-around times and more reliably ethical practices than those applied by some overseas companies.

QUESTIONS

Hadas asks, “How would you recommend creating connections with other artists and publishers in the book illustration and comic fields if you live far from the cultural centers of these industries?”

Go where the people are! Attend conferences and local events to make in-person connections, and foster relationships online by adding value, leaving thoughtful comments, and DMing occasionally (just don’t spam!). You can also attract that crowd by filling your social media accounts with high-quality work and personal projects.

Cozirin asks, “Due to the nature of your podcast, would you be upfront if you felt there was no future for illustrators? Even before AI, I took what art educators said with a grain of salt since it’s in their interest for others to believe an art career is possible.”

Full disclosure: making a living as an artist is hard. (Honestly, making a living in any profession in this economy is hard.) Between the increasingly high cost of living and the lowering barriers to artistic education, you face more competition and fewer opportunities. If that overwhelms you, keep art as a side hustle or hobby and just enjoy it. 

However, it’s not impossible to make a living with your art (after all, we do!). You’ll have to work hard and possibly detour from your original idea of life as an artist, but it can be done, and we’re here to show you how.

Brian asks, “How do you practice drawing machinery, engines, spaceships, robots, etc.? Do you use reference material?”

Jake, our resident robot- and machinery-drawing specialist, approaches engines and mechanical objects like learning anatomy: first drawing cars, machines, exposed engines, etc. from reference and completing master studies. When creating from imagination, Jake draws on his visual library of machinery (check out his Pinterest and Flickr boards for inspiration) and starts with proportion, shape, and character. He also uses the rule of 70/30: 70% dead space, 30% detailed (or vice versa).

As with anatomy, once you understand how things connect by drawing from references, you can apply that knowledge in creative ways.

Luiza asks, “When you create a children's book, do you stick to the same color palette on every spread?”

Generally, yes! Sticking to one color palette saves time and keeps the book cohesive. 

Diana asks, “Even if I’m already getting clients on my own, does it makes sense for me to hire an agent to help me negotiate and get me better work (especially when they’ll take a cut from my earnings)?”

If your only concern is negotiation, consider improving your bartering skills and saving yourself some money. Agents are worth their price when they save you significant amounts of time looking for work, but if you’re already getting clients, you might not need that much assistance.

If you want to be published by a big name like Penguin Random House, you’ll need an agent’s professionalism to land a deal, but if you’re content with self-publishing and working with smaller companies, you can continue representing yourself.

Sarah asks, “Is PrintNinja a good self-publishing option price-wise?”

Yes! If you plan to self-publish many more books in the future, you’ll want to compare your options in China versus stateside. China is slower but cheaper; US-based shops boost your local economy and are more reliably ethical. Do your research and pick the option that makes the most sense for you.

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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Finding Inspiration with Benjamin Schipper

Art by Benjamin Schipper

Writer and illustrator Benjamin Schipper joins Jake Parker and Will Terry for a thought-provoking interview on expanding what influences you, creating from empathy, fulfilling your artistic mission, and more.

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Benjamin Schipper: benjaminschipper.com, Instagram @benjaminschipper, YouTube
Joe Death and the Graven Image
See Benjamin and Jake at LightBox Expo 2023!

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Art is about translating life into your work. Feed your creativity and expand your understanding of the world through diverse experiences and relationships to have something worth saying when you sit down to create.

  • Silence your ego; create for something or someone greater than yourself.

  • The source that gave you your mission is the source that will help you fulfill it.

  • The best stories are true, whether they happened or not, because they embody timeless principles. 

BIO

Benjamin Schipper is a U.S.-based writer and artist whose clients include The Jim Henson Company, Boom! Studios, Penguin Random House, Sterling Publishing, and more. Inspired by a wide range of influences- from literature, poetry, and biblical stories to animation and pulp entertainment- Benjamin’s work combines bold illustration with layered storytelling. 

As a father working from home, Benjamin fuels his creative practice by spending time with his family, reading, and interacting with others. He believes developing empathy and creating an experience-rich life gives him something to say when he sits down to write or draw. His love of God and people inspires his aim to write stories based on timeless truths.

Check out Benjamin’s graphic novel, Joe Death and the Graven Image, and find more of his work at benjaminschipper.com.

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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AI Can Never Be Original

Art by Mag Takac

Why is my art so boring? Can I get work overseas? How can I manage my time better? Learn all this and more from illustration experts Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry.

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Power Portfolio Critiques- Level up your portfolio with in-depth, 1-on-1 feedback!
Ep 162: Not All Practice is Created Equal
Marques Brownlee Apple Pro Vision Review
Lee White Watercolor Photoshop Brush Pack
Tadahiro Uesugi
Developing Great Visual Stories class by Will Terry

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Describe your illustration in a sentence. If it sounds dull, it probably is!

  • Want to tell great visual stories? Veer away from overly sentimental images and lean into action-based illustrations.

  • Always schedule double the amount of time it takes for you to complete a project. Turn in sketches early to receive feedback and get to work quickly.

  • The more passive income you generate, the fewer clients you need, and the more time you have to complete projects without rushing.

QUESTIONS

Anonymous asks, “How can you create a realistic schedule that accounts for the unexpected?”

  1. Streamline your workflow

  2. Work with a smaller amount of better-paying clients 

  3. Time-block your day, then prioritize tasks within each block

  4. Generate passive income streams

Rochele asks, “My portfolio is a little lackluster and missing the ‘it’ factor, but why?”

The top questions to ask yourself when making an illustration are, “What makes this interesting? What story am I telling?” Your images should stir emotion in the viewer through both content and execution. That means you must create elements of tension, intrigue, excitement, etc., rather than simply painting a pretty picture. 

Lily writes, “I'm a full-time children's book illustrator in New Zealand. I want to reach overseas markets, but I have not had any success in reaching publishers or agents outside of NZ and Australia. How can I expand into other markets?”

Honestly, if your work is good enough, you should be able to break into other markets. It’s probably time for a portfolio overhaul. You have some great pieces in your portfolio, but not all of them match that level, so let’s work on that. Set a goal to create one new portfolio piece every two weeks. That gives you one week of concepting and sketching and one week to paint. Focus on telling compelling stories, as we recommended to Rochele. If you do that for six months to a year, you’ll have a brand new portfolio ready to enter any market.

For more specific help, sign up for a Power Portfolio Critique by one of our excellent teachers at SVSLearn! You’ll receive an in-depth breakdown of your work and clear action items based on the goals you have for yourself. Plus, it’s all recorded for you!

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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How Do I Fire My Agent? ft. Anthony Wheeler

Art by Analise Black

How do I get rid of my nightmare agent? Lee White, Will Terry, and guest host Anthony Wheeler discuss boundaries in professional relationships, traditional art for publication, and success mindset in this episode.

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Anthony Wheeler: website, Twitch, Instagram, sketchbook

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Not everyone will like your work, but not everyone needs to.

  • Confidence is your most important style choice.

  • Whether a publisher is asking for more than you’ve agreed to, or you’re in a sticky situation with an agent, clear and diplomatic communication is your best asset. The better you can establish healthy boundaries and expectations, the easier it will be to navigate any professional (or non-professional!) situation.

QUESTIONS

Julia asks, “Have you ever struggled with mindset issues, and how did you deal with them?”

Every successful artist or entrepreneur has to face their mindset. Creatives must overestimate their contribution and ability in order to dare to pursue their dreams. Not everyone will like your work, but not everyone needs to. Focus on creating what resonates with you and getting it into the hands of people who share your taste.

Within your long-term vision, set milestones to work towards and celebrate to help yourself stay motivated and measure your progress.

Brian asks, “Does anyone still make traditional art for publication?”

Digital art is common because it allows you to make edits and implement feedback quickly, but those who create traditional media illustrations have physical pieces they can sell when the job is done. For this reason, some comic artists will sketch digitally, then print those sketches and ink them traditionally. Other people create entire images digitally, then create a single print of each piece to sell as originals. It all comes down to how much time you have and how much final editing you can do in the sketching phase to avoid making changes later in the process.

Melissa asks, “When are sketchy lines a charming stylistic choice and when are they unprofessional?”

Some artists love the sketchy line, while others prefer a sleek, commercial look. It boils down to confidence. If you know the result you’re after and you don’t overwork the same line, you can get away with the most wobbly mark or the cleanest streak. Just be intentional and then leave it alone!

Lily asks, “A couple of years ago I got an agent, but our first book together went terribly. She didn't negotiate any protection for the number of revisions the publisher could have, and the publisher requested endless changes which my agent pressured me to do for free. Once the project was done, I dropped the agent. However, the book has a sequel. I'm contractually obliged to cut her in on projects with this publisher for another 15 months, but I never signed anything saying I would illustrate the second book. I think I could work with the publisher again on my terms, but the agent is controlling the communication. I have plenty of negotiation power in this situation, but I'm tempted to drop the entire project rather than deal with her. I'm worried this will make me look bad to the publisher. What should I do?”

You could ask the publisher to buy out the agent, ensuring she still gets paid but doesn’t interfere with any upcoming projects. Don’t stress about what the publisher will think of you; since you’ve already separated from this agent, they’ll understand the situation. Communicate to the publisher with as much clarity and diplomacy as possible. These kinds of sticky situations are a part of any business, and if, despite your best efforts, a bridge gets burned, there are many other publishers you could work with moving forward.

LINKS

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Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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Is The AI Art Collapse Imminent?

Art by Analise Black

Lots of new things are on the horizon for the SVSLearn community! Join Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry for a sneak peek at what’s coming, plus digital brush tips, commercialism, and the best way to approach a critique.

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Adobe Creative Cloud
Kyle T. Webster Photoshop brushes
ARTICLE: The AI Feedback Loop
CLASS: Creating Custom Brushes in Photoshop with Lee White

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • The best critiques evaluate whether or not an illustrator is reaching their goals, rather than sharing general opinions of the work.

  • If you hear the same feedback from multiple sources, you should probably pay attention to it.

  • No matter what style you want to develop, a thorough understanding of basics like light, shadow, composition, and value will serve you well throughout your entire career.

QUESTIONS

Joanne asks, “What level of finish should a book dummy submission have?”

We discuss this in-depth in Children’s Book Pro, which reopens this fall! The short answer? Your composition and layout should be legible, but not detailed (we should be able to recognize a truck, but not that it’s a Ford F1-50). Include a few fully-rendered pieces so your art director can see where your sketches are headed.

Elizabeth asks, “I have Photoshop CS5. What brushes or presets do you recommend to achieve a charcoal or pastel look?”

It’s time for an update. With Adobe Creative Cloud, you can enjoy Kyle Webster’s fabulous brushes for free. If you’re not ready to upgrade, you must build your own brushes. Check out Lee White’s class, Creating Custom Brushes in Photoshop to learn how!

“If my goal is to learn stylized animal landscape illustration, should I still learn realistic human drawing? I’m a complete beginner.”

Having a basic grasp of the human form and skeleton is useful and can improve your animal drawing, but you don’t need to study it extensively. 90% of your focus should be on advancing your goal. Light and shadow, value, composition, etc. are the most critical skills to learn, as they’ll help you in any style you pursue.

Kim says, “I had a couple of SCBWI illustration critiques from art directors, and their opinions differed on a few pieces. When that happens, what do you recommend in changing the artwork?”

Between two differing opinions, one is usually wrong, but discerning between them can be challenging. Ask for additional opinions. If you hear the same feedback from multiple sources, pay attention. A good critique focuses not on opinion, but on whether or not the illustration in question matches the illustrator’s desired effect.

Sean asks, “When selling physical products, do you worry about product liability insurance?”

Generally, it’s not a priority, except when required for events.

“You mentioned on a previous episode that commercial style is a bad thing. Can you explain what that is and how to avoid it?”

“Commercial” refers to the generic, soft, airbrushed look like what you’d see on a cereal box. It’s not necessarily bad, but a more textured, multi-media look lends itself to projects with more heart, storytelling, and creative freedom.

Chris asks, “How has collaborating with niche market influencers worked for you?”

The key to working with influencers is the quality (not the quantity) of their audience, and their ability to promote your product sincerely. Influencer collaborations with SVSLearn are in the works!

Pamela asks, “Do you guys pursue awards? Are they submitted by publishers? Are you excluded if you self-publish? How does a book get noticed by the ALA?”

Typically your publishers handle awards for you; it’s harder to enter when you’re self-published. Awards can elevate your profile, which makes landing your next gig easier, but increased book sales aren’t guaranteed. 

“Why did you choose to join Patreon? I’ve heard it takes quite a cut and that the community interaction is lacking.” 

We’re actually considering a platform transition to better support our community. Patreon is an excellent place for artists to join the conversation without actively taking SVSLearn classes, but juggling both subscribers and patrons takes up a lot of bandwidth for our team. We’re open to suggestions for our next move, so send in your community-building ideas!

LINKS

Svslearn.com

Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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Artistic Resilience with Nathan Fowkes

Art by Nathan Fowkes

Animation artist Nathan Fowkes joins Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry to share his story of resilience, bulletproofing his artistic career, the keys to making meaningful art, and much more.

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SHOW LINKS

Nathan Fowkes: nathanfowkesart.com, ArtStation, YouTube, Instagram, Schoolism
Making Your Freelance Career Bulletproof with Nathan Fowkes (Lightbox presentation)
Alla Prima by Richard Schmid
My Adventures as an Illustrator by Norman Rockwell
Glaze

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • You are responsible for your life and the security of your career. Pursue excellence, create multiple income streams, and don’t let fear and excuses hold you back.

  • Find multiple ways to make money from a single project, whether you film the process and sell it as a course, create prints, or do something else. Passive income is one key to bulletproofing your artistic career. 

  • Studying art online is a great way to learn while saving money, but there will be gaps in your education that you can’t see. Reach out to professional artists and ask them what classes they didn’t realize they needed until they took them. The answers may surprise you, but they’ll help you achieve a well-rounded foundation. 

  • Create something your audience can’t get anywhere else. When you create something valuable, you become valuable.

BIO

Nathan Fowkes is an entertainment industry artist whose notable clients include DreamWorks, Disney, Blue Sky, Paramount, and more. He grew up in a small town in central California and attended ArtCenter College of Design, intending to become an illustrator. However, after accepting a job offer from DreamWorks, he rerouted his career toward animation. He worked at DreamWorks for fifteen years before becoming an independent artist. 

Nathan specializes in storytelling through color scripts, plotting the color themes for films based on the emotions they evoke. He also enjoys traditional media and is assembling a book of personal work called Pathways, full of his landscapes that push color and composition. 

After overcoming a health crisis that nearly took his ability to paint, Nathan is a stellar example of an illustrator who has bulletproofed his career through personal responsibility, mastery of technique, and multiple income streams. He is the author of several books and instructor of multiple classes at Schoolism.com

LINKS

Svslearn.com

Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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Not All Practice Is Created Equal

Art by Kim Rosenlof

How do I break into comics? What’s the best way to practice drawing? Am I allowed to change my style? Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry weigh in on this episode!

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Nathan Fowkes
Rebelle
Doug DeMuro interview
Jake’s viral reel

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • You are not your style! Quit limiting yourself by over-identifying with your work and allow yourself to experiment and play.

  • “Nothing to lose, nothing to gain.” This open-ended mindset allows you to create without expectations or fear. Let your love of the process motivate you more than potential success.

QUESTIONS

Eric asks, “I’ve heard Jake explain that all practice is not created equal. Can you expand on that?”

The best kind of practice is more than filling sketchbook pages; it’s working to improve your weak areas and increase the skills you need to do the work you want to do. To do this, identify something you’d like to create and what’s preventing you from doing so. Find artists who are very good in those weak areas and make master copies of their work. Create projects that force you to practice those skills in a context that interests you. Your practice should always be in service of your goals and style!

Tom asks, “I’m starting my illustration career and need to build a portfolio. I've observed that simple, folksy art is trending. Should I ditch my rendered, painterly look for a simpler one that may resonate better with agents and publishers?”

If you’re open to change, go for it, as long as the new style appeals to you. Don’t limit yourself or hang your identity on your current style; allow yourself to tinker with things both you and your target market can appreciate.

Anna asks, “My work is heavy on the details and takes up a LOT of time.  I'm making my first comic and looking for time-saving hacks.  What can I do to pare down and speed up?”

Simplify your color palette and aim for a more graphic style. Clarity is king; your art should serve the story rather than distract from it. Save the most rendering and detail for establishing shots and allow the remaining frames to be as simple as possible.

Raj asks, “I’ve started writing a comic, but the comics landscape seems to be continuously changing. If you were to start a long-form comic project today, how would you do it? How would you approach social media, online publishing, print publishing, Patreon, Kickstarter, and the rest?”

Comic artists can take several publishing paths:

  1. If you want to be published by Image Comics, start out either illustrating for a current Image Comics artist, or build clout working with DC, Skybound, Boom! Studios, or Dark Horse. Be aware that these studios can be predatory about rights, meaning they can stop publishing your comic and you won’t be able to take that IP elsewhere.

  2. You can pursue New York publishing houses (Scholistic, Harper Collins). Funny and feely comics do well there, as well as educational subjects like history and STEM.

  3. Build your audience on Webtoon, then launch and direct your followers to a Kickstarter.

Understand that a career in comics is rare, and it’s best if you create them as a hobby with no expectations. Create for a specific audience, publish smaller projects more frequently (as opposed to epic five-year undertakings), and see what takes off.

LINKS

Svslearn.com

Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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Adobe Firefly Won't Take Your Job... Yet

Art by Lee White

My convention table flopped- what now? Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry address how to brand your art, find your audience, and keep going through discouragement, while testing out the new Adobe Firefly Beta

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SHOW LINKS

Anthony Wheeler interview

Kyle Webster interview

Travis Hanson interview

Fresco

Eric Dowdle folk art puzzles

Pins by Jake Parker

SVSLearn Foundations Curriculum

Schedule a portfolio review!

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Your mindset determines your success more than anything else. If you decide that you can create the art you’re dreaming of, you’ll do the work it takes to draw those abilities to the surface. No matter how long it takes, you’ll be able to keep moving through discouragement to success.

  • Every convention, art fair, and project is market research. Record what’s working and what isn’t and use that information to make your next endeavor even better.

  • Give the people what they want! When you create a long-running series of works, you improve your branding and give your audience something to collect over time.

QUESTIONS

Brian asks, “What do you do when you feel like you’re not making any forward progress?”

If you’re practicing consistently, you’re likely making progress even if you can’t see it. Make sure your practice sessions have specific aims, and ask for feedback frequently so you can make improvements with every piece. Our forum at SVSLearn is a great place to get constructive evaluations.

If you’ve hit a wall with a particular skill, it can be helpful to set it aside for a while and work on something else. When you return, you’ll have a fresh perspective and renewed drive to keep going. 

In the case of projects that don’t take off the way you hope, be willing to take what you’ve learned from the process and pivot to something new if needed. You’re growing and learning about your market with every experience, and your best chances at success come when you keep moving and trying new things based on the best information you have, rather than clinging to ideas that aren’t going anywhere.

Melissa asks, “I’m not my target audience. How do I make art products when I’m not a consumer of such products?”

As long as you love what you’re making, it doesn’t need to be a product you’d purchase. (Will doesn’t have little kids anymore, so he’s not in the market for children’s books, yet he’s passionate about creating them.) 

On the flip side, you can saturate yourself in the culture of the products you’re selling, and you may find you’re more of a consumer than you thought. (Jake wasn’t a pin fanatic when he decided to sell pins, but in doing market research he developed a sizeable collection and today he understands the culture around the obsession.)

Mimi asks, “I just got back from doing my first comic con and after barely making the money back on my table, I’m a little discouraged and wondering if cons are worth it. Any advice on how to attract people at cons to original art, and is there a way to profitably market to kids at cons (my art appeals to younger ages)?”

First of all, if you break even at your first con, that’s a huge win! Many people lose money in the beginning, so you have reason to celebrate.

Your first cons are market research; you get to see what people buy and what they don’t. A few keys to success include:

  • Branding your booth. Make sure your style is consistent and the pieces feel cohesive.

  • Create a cult following. Develop a series that you can expand over time, something people will want to collect whenever the latest image comes out. 

  • Copy the winners. What are the most successful artists doing? How can you apply those things to your work?

  • You’re not just an artist; you’re a business person. Evaluate what’s selling and what isn’t and learn to give the people what they want from what you have to offer.

Also consider if cons are the best setting for your work. You might do better in art fairs, retail sales, as a children’s book illustrator, in licensing, or in another market. Just because your work doesn’t skyrocket in conventions doesn’t mean it’s bad; you may simply need to go elsewhere to find your audience.

O’Rourke asks, “Which SVSLearn classes would you recommend for an intermediate artist?”

Head over to our Foundations curriculum and check out the classes in levels two through four. You can also overview the entire curriculum and pick classes that address your specific weaknesses.

If you’re a mid-level artist with a body of work, a portfolio review from one of our expert teachers at SVSLearn is just what you need to find your next steps forward! You’ll learn what’s working, what’s not, and what specific actions you can take today to reach your next level. 

LINKS

Svslearn.com

Jake Parker: mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry: willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White: leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo 

Daniel Tu: danieltu.co.

Lily Camille Howell: lilycamille.com

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